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I present VUE3D, a dedicated VB emulator for Nintendo New3DS...
Posted on: 2018/3/7 23:08
Nintendoid!
Joined 2004/5/28
215 Posts
Long Time User (15 Years)
...well at least this is something I would like to write.
But maybe I have your attention now ;)

A few people here know me. I am a very long time member of PlanetVB. I contributed a lot to the VB scene.
Many times without asking for anything in return.
The Virtual Boy always fascinated me, even with its flaws and problems. There are several real nice games on it and you can not find or play them on any other system.
And this brings me to the point of this topic.

The Virtual Boy and some of its games deserve to be played by a wider audience. There is also a lot of very cool homebrew by now. The sad thing is, because it is Virtual Boy not many can enjoy it in full and propably never will.
The System itself costs now quite a lot and lets not even talk about some games.
Also if you have a VB, chances are high that your system suffers from the display problems. This is fixable but it is not very easy to do. The usual new "retro fan" won't bother.

There are emulators out there but with none you can enjoy the games and its 3D without hazzle.

The way I see it, we need to do something about it.
The only system which can bring the VB games to a real wide audience and also features the 3D without any problems is the (New) 3DS.

The Nintendo 3DS is out there now for a very long time. When this system came out, I did MPO files of Teleroboxer to show how well it would look like on it.
Now after many years, the 3DS and the New3DS is fully hacked and homebrew is possible without big problems. There is even a quite good working 3DS Emulator called Citra out there which should make development easier.

Unfortunately there is still no usable VB Emulator for the 3DS and this I do not understand at all!
For me a proper VB emu on 3DS was a inevitability from day 1.

The only VB emulator on the 3DS is Mednafen trough RetroArch.
On a limited system like the 3DS this makes no sense.
We really need a dedicated VB Emulator.
It should be possible to use sourcecode of available VB emulators for this but it needs 3ds spcific optimation.

I am not sure if the 3DS can be used but the New 3DS should be usable. There we have all the buttons needed, there is 3D, the screen offers high enough resolution so that no scaling shit is needed and there is Head Tracking. In theory all is there to offer a second best thing after the VB.

3D Pictures of 3DS Games on the VB is a cool idea but we should also do the other way around. Seeing all the effort with the VB homebrew I would say we have all the recources to pull this off.
What we are waiting for? A wider audience can only be good for the community.
We are also in luck because there are only a handfull of games to take care about. This should not take ages. What do you think? Also I am sure there are people on GBATemp who are willing to contribute to this project in several ways if done right.

If we look into this, I think we should first determine if the New 3DS is capable to emulate the VB at full speed or close to it and go from there.

PS: with a wider audience and more interest in the VB several things could happen:
Unreleased games surface (Dragon Hopper)
Or Nintendo finally stops ditching the VB and brings official VB Virtual Console Content which could lead in Dragon Hopper or others. When it came to emulation stuff, Nintendo always did it after the Internet community was first.
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#2
Re: I present VUE3D, a dedicated VB emulator for Nintendo New3DS...
Posted on: 2018/3/8 0:42
Nintendoid!
Joined 2004/5/28
215 Posts
Long Time User (15 Years)
Well it turns out somebody started a VB emu already some time ago but as usual stopped halfway.
https://github.com/mrdanielps/r3Ddragon
If I see this right, there is interest in a proper VB emu.
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#3
Re: I present VUE3D, a dedicated VB emulator for Nintendo New3DS...
Posted on: 2018/3/8 4:28
Nintendoid!
Joined 2014/5/16
USA
145 Posts
Long Time User (5 Years)
I have been wishing for this for a long time! I was super momentarily excited when I saw your topic! :) Unfortunately, I don't have any of the skills required for such a project, but I know many people on here do! I would be all too willing to help crowdfund a project like this though! I think it would be a great alternative way to experience the games (not to mention awesome for when I'm on travel).
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#4
Re: I present VUE3D, a dedicated VB emulator for Nintendo New3DS...
Posted on: 2018/3/8 10:51
Nintendoid!
Joined 2004/5/28
215 Posts
Long Time User (15 Years)
I also believe that there is enough interest in a proper VB. Emulator.
The guy who startet the RedDragon port wrote a FAQ:
"Why would you make a Virtual Boy emulator? Nobody asked for it.

The 3DS is the perfect system to faithfully emulate the Virtual Boy. They have similar screen resolutions, the 3D effect is better and it's actually portable."

Well nobody asked for it is not true. ;)
The rest says everything. And to add, the 3DS is also a Nintendo machine so it is a good fit.

I checked last night and apparently GuyPerfect wanted to attemp a proper ARM version. I guess this is also needed to make it run full speed. According to what I read, he had outlined the full idea already. Unfortunately it seems something stopped him.

I guess people just need proper motivation.
A fundraiser could help and there are tons of people on GBATemp who are interested in a VB emulator and are waiting. SOme of them propably would support the cause if the project is properely setup and running.

I also checked ebay and buyee last night regarding VB items.
This is so ridiculous. You find not much on buyee because they think now it is a good ieda to put their shit on ebay. All overpriced as hell excluding shipping! They really ask 300-400 USD for a single Virtual boy. Game prices itself are also much more for common titles.

Once I had a full Collection except for Virtual Bowling. That was always to expensive. I do not even have a System anymore and even if I would like to get one, it is almost impossible now. If this happens to me I am sure it also happens to a ton of other people.
Something needs to be done :)
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#5
Re: I present VUE3D, a dedicated VB emulator for Nintendo New3DS...
Posted on: 2018/3/8 12:33
Nintendoid!
Joined 2017/1/31
Germany
129 Posts
Long Time User (2 Years)
OH YES!! Count me into the VUE3D task force, please! I also don't have any dev skills unfortunately, but I definitely would fund a project like this!! And would create teaser graphics, if that could help to inspire developers and funders for this ...
I also believe that the 3DS would be the perfect VIRTUAL BOY emulator. And my heart also skipped a beat, when I read your headline ...
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#6
Re: I present VUE3D, a dedicated VB emulator for Nintendo New3DS...
Posted on: 2018/3/8 21:27
Nintendoid!
Joined 2004/5/28
215 Posts
Long Time User (15 Years)
We really need to expand the range of systems that can play the VB games in a manner which makes sense.
Btw @Stereo, nice work with the GFX
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#7
Re: I present VUE3D, a dedicated VB emulator for Nintendo New3DS...
Posted on: 2018/3/9 16:26
Nintendoid!
Joined 2004/5/28
215 Posts
Long Time User (15 Years)
Here is a rough mockup for the Emulator UI.
This is very similar to the SNES Mini Classic UI plus a information section on screen two.
The BG on the upper screen can be exchanged with other artwork and it should also moving.
With this layout a cool 3D effect should be possible.
Also as you can see, I did this mockup more like the japanes/proto style.
I really do not like the US style of the boxart and so on.
Some do so I would suggest to make a few skins.

Final JP
Final US
VB Prototype

In the 3DS IPL we could display a nice 3D model of the VB with controller.

We need a background music.

Edit:
We should propably move the Button functions from upper screen to lower screen and put sections up there like US Games/JP Games/Prototypes/Homebrew

Attach file:



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Edited by Fire-WSP on 2018/3/9 16:36
Edited by Fire-WSP on 2018/3/9 16:38
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Re: I present VUE3D, a dedicated VB emulator for Nintendo New3DS...
Posted on: 2018/3/9 17:41
Nintendoid!
Joined 2017/1/31
Germany
129 Posts
Long Time User (2 Years)
Very Nice :)

I suggest that PVB users, who are interested in this project also create a GBATemp account, because we are gonna need support of experienced 3DS homebrewsers, I guess. I'll create an account the coming days ...

Some more naming suggestions:
• VUE|3DS (as VUE is already "3D")
• VIRTUAL Console BOY
THE Virtual Console
• Virtual Utopia Console
• OLD BOY
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#9
Re: I present VUE3D, a dedicated VB emulator for Nintendo New3DS...
Posted on: 2018/3/9 18:13
Nintendoid!
Joined 2004/5/28
215 Posts
Long Time User (15 Years)
The frontend I made the mockup for should not be very hard to do when it come to the coding. We would not need the absolute top coder for this task.
Also this UI or Frontend could be done already without the actual VB emulator behind it.
If we include all the box art and infos for the games, people could at least already switch trough the entire VB library and see whats in there. There is just no active starting button to start a emulator behind.
Once there is a emulator ready, it can be connected with the UI.
We can not put in the officiall roms. The user need to take care about it. However, the gfx inside for each official game can be done by us and also all the cool homebrew can be preinstalled.
And I think that this entire UI can be done with the Citra Emualtor at the beginning. No need for 3DS hacking at the start.
Edited by Fire-WSP on 2018/3/9 19:54
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#10
Re: I present VUE3D, a dedicated VB emulator for Nintendo New3DS...
Posted on: 2018/3/9 18:47
Nintendoid!
Joined 2004/5/28
215 Posts
Long Time User (15 Years)
Did a small rework of the Mockup:

Attach file:



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Edited by Fire-WSP on 2018/3/9 18:58
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