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#61
Re: Display ribbon cable alternatives
Posted on: 5/1 7:54
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Joined 3/9
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The tape sounds like a good idea, and I wouldn't mind the added cost. Although I'm only in for a couple, and could see how it might be a problem if anyone's buying in bulk.

I'm not sure about your single layer cable idea. While it sounds good, it seems like pressing from the back while soldering could easily squeeze out some solder to short neighboring pads. I've never tried that before, but I'd assume you can't really clean up individual shorts without removing the cable and trying again, unless you can massage them apart through the back of the cable.

Hopefully the castellated holes work out with the current design.
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#62
Re: Display ribbon cable alternatives
Posted on: 5/2 2:15
Nintendoid!
Joined 2016/7/21
138 Posts
Long Time User (2 Years)
Quote:

Biscuit wrote:
The tape sounds like a good idea, and I wouldn't mind the added cost. Although I'm only in for a couple, and could see how it might be a problem if anyone's buying in bulk.

I'm not sure about your single layer cable idea. While it sounds good, it seems like pressing from the back while soldering could easily squeeze out some solder to short neighboring pads. I've never tried that before, but I'd assume you can't really clean up individual shorts without removing the cable and trying again, unless you can massage them apart through the back of the cable.

Hopefully the castellated holes work out with the current design.


The idea behind the single-sided version would be that the pads would be pre-tinned and pre-fluxed. Only a thin layer of solder would be on the pads, far too little to 'squeeze out', but rather just enough to solidly bond.

So far, no one individual buyer has asked to purchase more than 10 sets. I keep hoping that some fanatical stockpiler of VBs wishes to have all 1000 units of his pride and joy receive VirtualCables, with an equal amount extra for backups, but so far, nuthin'.
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#63
Re: Display ribbon cable alternatives
Posted on: 5/3 4:11
Nintendoid!
Joined 2016/7/21
138 Posts
Long Time User (2 Years)
Excellent news! I have just received written correspondence from my fab house confirming that adding castellated holes on the edge of the VirtualCable adds NO COST to the cables! Turns out that the extra dollar base increase covers new tooling capabilities that allow for castellation without a price bump!
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#64
Re: Display ribbon cable alternatives
Posted on: 5/3 18:00
Virtual Freak
Joined 2017/9/15
64 Posts
Long Time User (1 Year)
That's awesome, it would have been easy for them to add a small cost bump, knowing you would have paid it. Good fab house.
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#65
Re: Display ribbon cable alternatives
Posted on: 5/3 23:05
Nintendoid!
Joined 2016/7/21
138 Posts
Long Time User (2 Years)
I have added a poll on my NintendoAge Thread to determine whether or not I should add 3M tape to each cable for $1 per pair more, bringing the final total up to $12 per pair.

Please vote and let me know!

http://nintendoage.com/forum/messagev ... m?catid=6&threadid=186222
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#66
Re: Display ribbon cable alternatives
Posted on: 5/5 13:56
PVB Elite
Joined 2009/12/30
Netherlands
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I was on a little vacation, but $12 would really be my max price, though if it adds to making sure it will be installed easier, I am for it.
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#67
Re: Display ribbon cable alternatives
Posted on: 5/5 15:01
Nintendoid!
Joined 2016/7/21
138 Posts
Long Time User (2 Years)
It actually works out to $0.63 per cable in cost. Now, alternatively, I have a roll of 3M that I could just use to do it myself for less, but I'm currently looking at about 250 cables. That's a lot of work and time, and it wouldn't be as neat and orderly as a factory install.

But those are exactly the sort of opinions I want to hear, Force. That's why I set up the nintendoage poll.
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#68
Re: Display ribbon cable alternatives
Posted on: 5/12 4:07
Nintendoid!
Joined 2016/7/21
138 Posts
Long Time User (2 Years)
I have successfully talked my fab house down to $0.25 per pair increase for tape, mostly due to the large number of prospective buyers. At present, I have 42 unique buyers wanting a total of 125 pairs.

At that rate, I'm perfectly fine with eating that out of the profit margin, so the upshot is that I have all the features I want at an acceptable price.

At this stage, I'm just waiting for the end of May to shove my order in. If you know anyone who wants to get on board, point them my way!

Thanks to all for making this project successful!

EDIT: Below are pictures of the final design:

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#69
Re: Display ribbon cable alternatives
Posted on: 5/21 0:23
Nintendoid!
Joined 2016/7/21
138 Posts
Long Time User (2 Years)
Only 11 days left to get in on this before I shoot the VirtualCable order in!
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#70
Re: Display ribbon cable alternatives
Posted on: 5/21 13:01
Virtual Freak
Joined 1/27
78 Posts
I'm going to attempt fixing an original ribbon this evening, if things go south I may have to add myself to the list for a pair or two.
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