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#11
Re: Creating a SNES-to-VB controller adapter (your results)
Posted on: 2015/10/12 4:07
Nintendoid!
Joined 2014/5/16
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Ok, so I took some baby steps into my project this weekend and learned some things and hope to learn some more things from you guys. Recall, I am a soldering super-novice.

Knowing my limitations, I decided to try to do the SNES-to-NES controller mod (simply splicing a NES cord onto a SNES controller) to get experience working with the small Nintendo controller wires. Results were mixed. The final creation did actually work but I wasn't very happy with it. I want some technique advice from y'all experts.

1.) MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION: What general technique do you use for these tiny wires? I twisted the stripped sections around each other lengthwise, then put the iron on top of the wire(so the excess solder bulb would flow onto the wire) and moved the iron along the wire dabbing the solder along the way. This seemed to work ok, but not wonderfully. I had to do a few again because it didn't seem to coat them enough to keep them braided together sometimes.

2.) Which wattage iron should I use? I would presume a lower wattage would be preferable for such small wires? Currently I have a 25W and a 40W.

3.) Something seemed to be getting burned in the middle of the wires, well away from the colored insulation. This was evidenced by little black sections on the soldered section of the wires and black bulbs that would form on my iron. What even was that?

4.) Did you guys heatshrink each individual wire, then the cluster, or electrical tape the small wires and heatshrink the cluster, or do something else?

Any info or advice on any or all questions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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#12
Re: Creating a SNES-to-VB controller adapter (your results)
Posted on: 2015/10/13 3:59
PVB Elite
Joined 2003/7/26
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Quote:

astro187 wrote:
1.) MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION: What general technique do you use for these tiny wires?


Your technique is okay, but it really helps to have a source of external flux, rather than relying on what's inside your solder. This goes for 99% of all soldering jobs, so you should definitely invest in some rosin paste (it's super cheap from the usual online retailers).

Another method would be to tin the wires, then twist them, then just heat them until their respective solder coatings fuse (adding a little solder, if needed).

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2.) Which wattage iron should I use?


Generally, lower wattage for smaller masses of copper, but higher wattage just means you have to work faster.

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3.) Something seemed to be getting burned in the middle of the wires, well away from the colored insulation. What even was that?


I think they include plastic (nylon?) fibers in the wire to make it stronger. This is another reason tinning each wire end first is a good idea.

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4.) Did you guys heatshrink each individual wire, then the cluster, or electrical tape the small wires and heatshrink the cluster, or do something else?


I don't remember exactly how I did it, but I didn't heat-shrink the "cluster", because I put the wire joints inside the shell of the power switch. I also kind of "potted" them with hot glue. Come to think of it, maybe I coated the joints with the glue, too...

I hope that helps.
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#13
Re: Creating a SNES-to-VB controller adapter (your results)
Posted on: 2018/7/19 3:29
VUE(xpert)
Joined 2016/12/15
USA
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Hereís a version I just built for someone for playing Hyper Fighting.
VB connector with cord switch to 2.1mm jack power supply. SNES controller adapter to VB using a SNES extension cable.

I like this red and black retro-bit controller. May even have a sticker made so it looks like the controller in the HF manual.

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Edited by mellott124 on 2018/7/19 5:04
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#14
Re: Creating a SNES-to-VB controller adapter (your results)
Posted on: 2018/7/19 15:10
PVB Elite
Joined 2012/7/9
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Thatís a spectacular design, and honestly looks like an official peripheral.
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#15
Re: Creating a SNES-to-VB controller adapter (your results)
Posted on: 2018/7/19 20:06
VUE(xpert)
Joined 2016/12/15
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Dreammary wrote:
Thatís a spectacular design, and honestly looks like an official peripheral.


Thanks.

Iíve had some requests for more of these but itís limited by the VB connector. If enough people want one I could design and 3D print the VB connector. If anyone is interested please PM me. Just collecting an interest list for now.
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#16
Re: Creating a SNES-to-VB controller adapter (your results)
Posted on: 2018/7/21 0:25
VUE(xpert)
Joined 2016/12/15
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Now with controller.

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#17
Re: Creating a SNES-to-VB controller adapter (your results)
Posted on: 2018/7/21 1:14
PVB Elite
Joined 2012/7/9
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Okay that looks absolutely fantastic!
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#18
Re: Creating a SNES-to-VB controller adapter (your results)
Posted on: 2018/7/25 11:46
VUE(xpert)
Joined 2013/8/23
USA
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I would be interested as well! I finally finished installing the guts of a wireless Retro Bit SNES controller into a VB pad, so it would be cool to use your adapter for the receiver. Sometimes the short VB controller cable adds to my playing discomfort so I'd like to be able to move my hands around more freely.
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#19
Re: Creating a SNES-to-VB controller adapter (your results)
Posted on: 2018/8/21 7:41
VUE(xpert)
Joined 2015/3/28
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These old RetroDuo controllers look pretty nice next to a Virtual Boy (they almost look official), but too bad they're literally the cheapest feeling controllers I've ever held in my hands. They feel like dollar store controllers, or something you would get in a McDonald's Happy Meal 😬

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#20
Re: Creating a SNES-to-VB controller adapter (your results)
Posted on: 2018/8/21 11:10
PVB Elite
Joined 2012/7/9
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Have you tried swapping new silicon pads under the buttons? Sometimes a really low quality controller can feel substantially better with just that swap. Or swap the guts entirely from a official SNES controller, Iím sure you could find a functional but horribly beat up one for cheap.
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