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#1951
Re: The Noteworthy Auction Threadô
Posted on: 2018/5/10 3:04
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Quote:

Levine91 wrote:
So if that's how it's felt, what is there to worry about Capcom attacking with copyright infringement for the full ROM coming out? You can say inspired all you want it's still character designs, character names, box art, stages, etc that Capcom designed themselves. Whether or not someone else figured out how to design the sprites or code themselves, it's all still content/art that Capcom owns.

I really don't care if someone went through and did this with 100 different games that already exist or even someone else selling them as repro carts. I just think it's ridiculous that there seems to be a double standard going on when talking about stealing content.


Why do you think it was never publicly available for sale? Hyper Fighting was a project of love, it never was nor was it intended to be sold publicly or for profit. Would you expect Nintendo for coming after you for making yourself a fan drawing of Nintendo characters for you and your friends? No, not until you pump them out and put them up for sale is there a problem. These repros of the original Hyper Fighting are the first time they've been produced for public sale. Anything before that was part of a very small run made for the community, and even when personal copies went up for sale people had a problem with it, as that was not the intention for them.

Back to the fan drawing analogy, imagine if someone copied your drawing you never publicly sold and then..put it up for sale. Now it's not only lame that someone took it, but now they're also drawing more attention to it which isn't good for all the reasons you just said. It makes you look bad, even though you never planned to do that in the first place.

Trust me, there's a whole lot about this game you clearly don't know, and it's why people are so touchy about it.
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#1952
Re: The Noteworthy Auction Threadô
Posted on: 2018/5/10 5:05
Nintendoid!
Joined 2016/5/12
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Quote:

speedyink wrote:
Why do you think it was never publicly available for sale? Hyper Fighting was a project of love, it never was nor was it intended to be sold publicly or for profit. Would you expect Nintendo for coming after you for making yourself a fan drawing of Nintendo characters for you and your friends? No, not until you pump them out and put them up for sale is there a problem. These repros of the original Hyper Fighting are the first time they've been produced for public sale. Anything before that was part of a very small run made for the community, and even when personal copies went up for sale people had a problem with it, as that was not the intention for them.

Back to the fan drawing analogy, imagine if someone copied your drawing you never publicly sold and then..put it up for sale. Now it's not only lame that someone took it, but now they're also drawing more attention to it which isn't good for all the reasons you just said. It makes you look bad, even though you never planned to do that in the first place.

Trust me, there's a whole lot about this game you clearly don't know, and it's why people are so touchy about it.


If there is a whole lot that I don't know, then please share, as I'm certain I'm not the only one in that boat.

If people are donating money to the project and are getting a copy in return, yes, I would expect Nintendo, Capcom, or whoever to come after me. If that very small run was for sale exclusively within the community, it would be no different than if they were sold publicly. Just less attention. It would still be against the morals you are talking about.

This would also bring into question, why is no one worried or upset about repros of other official games being publicly for sale (Bound High, SD Gundam, etc).
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#1953
Re: The Noteworthy Auction Threadô
Posted on: 2018/5/10 7:21
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Yeah, I second that about other repros as well. I doubt anyone is giving Nintendo or the developers a slice of the pie with those sales.

Maybe Hyper Fighting hits closer to home because of its history within the community.

I am glad it was made available because it gave me an opportunity to play it. I most likely wouldn't have been able to otherwise.
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#1954
Re: The Noteworthy Auction Threadô
Posted on: 2018/5/10 9:06
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Street Fighter 2 has been such a culturally significant video game that it literally just got a new release recently on Nintendo Switch as Ultra Street Fighter 2. Thatís a big difference then the other games which never went on any other platforms, understand now?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IS11GOUIiHg
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#1955
Re: The Noteworthy Auction Threadô
Posted on: 2018/5/10 10:49
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Joined 2016/5/12
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Quote:

Dreammary wrote:
Street Fighter 2 has been such a culturally significant video game that it literally just got a new release recently on Nintendo Switch as Ultra Street Fighter 2. Thatís a big difference then the other games which never went on any other platforms, understand now?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IS11GOUIiHg


Nope, I dont. You dont need to get upset about it. No reason to give it special treatment either. Copyright is copyright. Gundam is a gigantic property as well (overall) and could do just as much legal harm.

This reminds me of Stadium Events honestly. Seems like some just want it to be a bragging rights trophy.

Ill just leave it alone now though. Clearly we will all just keep going in circles about it.
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#1956
Re: The Noteworthy Auction Threadô
Posted on: 2018/5/10 18:24
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Joined 2017/7/10
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Quote:

Levine91 wrote:
Quote:

Dreammary wrote:
Street Fighter 2 has been such a culturally significant video game that it literally just got a new release recently on Nintendo Switch as Ultra Street Fighter 2. Thatís a big difference then the other games which never went on any other platforms, understand now?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IS11GOUIiHg


Nope, I dont. You dont need to get upset about it. No reason to give it special treatment either. Copyright is copyright. Gundam is a gigantic property as well (overall) and could do just as much legal harm.

This reminds me of Stadium Events honestly. Seems like some just want it to be a bragging rights trophy.

Ill just leave it alone now though. Clearly we will all just keep going in circles about it.


Yep, hit the nail on the head. People just want it to be some bragging rights trophy and are bent out of shape that now OTHER people have it too. OH NO, boo hoo. I think im going to start selling repros of hyper fighting on ebay the second I have the chance. More people should have the chance to buy it. And btw Gundam came out like 12 years before street fighter 2 even existed, and like you said, nobody seems to care about the repros that have gone around. NEVER have I seen a complaint. And Gundam is something that eclipses street fighter by 10x fold. But this is different, because this was ripping off something else with "love". People need to get over it. Your copies of hyper fighting aren't special. The complaining here is ridiculous, go start a different thread already. Everytime I think a new post about some cool vb related auction has been made, its just this nonsense again and again.
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#1957
Re: The Noteworthy Auction Threadô
Posted on: 2018/5/10 23:30
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-Hyp ... 223c54:g:0SsAAOSwSXFa80te

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#1958
Re: The Noteworthy Auction Threadô
Posted on: 2018/5/11 2:59
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Wow, this thread is like a broken record.

You guys can believe what you want, Hyper Fighting is just another game in my collection. I've stated multiple times what my issue is, and if you can't parse the information from the text then not my problem.

Hopefully MK still feels like programming that Star Fox like game you guys were looking forward to. I mean, why wouldn't he knowing that someone else will just rip it and resell and you guys won't give a crap, saying it's his own fault.
Edited by speedyink on 2018/5/11 3:13
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#1959
Re: The Noteworthy Auction Threadô
Posted on: 2018/5/11 13:12
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I thought this was pretty interesting:
eBay item #263608086487 is a Virtual League Baseball prototype. The guy selling it has no idea if there are any differences between this and the final version.
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#1960
Re: The Noteworthy Auction Threadô
Posted on: 2018/5/11 16:13
Nintendoid!
Joined 2015/9/18
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Quote:

VirtualChris wrote:
I thought this was pretty interesting:
eBay item #263608086487 is a Virtual League Baseball prototype. The guy selling it has no idea if there are any differences between this and the final version.


Scroll up a bit, this item gets tons of coverage in this thread.
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