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#11
Re: Virtual Fishing Prototype ROM
Posted on: 2/16 18:11
Nintendoid!
Joined 2004/5/28
219 Posts
Long Time User (15 Years)
The board is a official and genuine VB eprom board.
The Data on it... well it is hard to verify if it was flashed in 1995 or recently.
If the binary matches with the final version of the game you can not call that a prototype anymore. It would be more of a review version if legit.
With the final version of the game and no other content on it, the board is not worth 2000 USD. :(
The board alone maybe 350-500.
In my opionion, for that much money, the seller should have given much more proof of the content.

You should propably open a case in ebay.

That said, I dont think that even a real prototype (early version of the game) of Virtual Fishing would be worth 2000 USD.
That is way to much for such an "unimportant" title.
A prototype of Zero Racer or Dragon Hopper would be worth it or even some more.
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#12
Re: Virtual Fishing Prototype ROM
Posted on: 2/16 18:15
Nintendoid!
Joined 2013/9/9
USA
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Long Time User (6 Years) 30+ Game Ratings
I had to pay full price, offers was not an option on listing, and I had to pay tax and cover the Ebay fees too since he wouldn't sell with PayPal only.

Oh yeah & he was from Columbus OH

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#13
Re: Virtual Fishing Prototype ROM
Posted on: 2/16 19:05
VB Gamer
Joined 2019/8/20
30 Posts
Quote:

If the binary matches with the final version of the game you can not call that a prototype anymore. It would be more of a review version if legit.

It's still on a prototype cart. Whats on it beyond that just affects it value, not whether it's a prototype or not.
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With the final version of the game and no other content on it, the board is not worth 2000 USD. :(
The board alone maybe 350-500.
In my opionion, for that much money, the seller should have given much more proof of the content.

Sadly I have to agree, without any history on it, and with a questionable chip and dump, it's worth much much less than the 2000.
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That said, I dont think that even a real prototype (early version of the game) of Virtual Fishing would be worth 2000 USD.

An undumped prototype for Virtual Fishing would very likely be worth that if not more. Being undumped and unique makes it much more valuable for those with deep pockets.


But regarding the cart, it is still a very uncommon quite hard to find item. They rarely leave collectors hands, and when they do they're likely to end up in the hands of someone who's not going to part with it in the future. You'd probably have a hard time returning it, as it was still as advertised. And even if you did, it's gonna be a while until another one, especially one of the few verified ones, pops up again.
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#14
Re: Virtual Fishing Prototype ROM
Posted on: 2/16 20:04
Nintendoid!
Joined 2004/5/28
219 Posts
Long Time User (15 Years)
Well, the BA3A board is not a prototype cart. It is a development and testing cart and not uber rare. I had 2 of these myself when I was collecting VB stuff.
This kind of cart was used by Nintendo and 3rd party companies mainly for testing since development was done on a debugger. Also such carts were given to magazines for review purposes.
The Virtual Boy died quite fast so it is possible that a review copy was left with the press and found is way to collectors over the years.
It is also possible that a testing copy of the final version of the game was left on the board after development of the title was done. Pack-in-Video Co. Ltd. made only this one VB game. Some time after that, the VB development stuff was propably put in trash and maybe one testing copy found its way to collectors.
I would call it a Testing or Preview Copy/Sample if legit and rate it with maybe 800 USD max.
Preview copies and Samples are a common thing on the SNES/SFC/Sega and they cost far less than unreleased stuff or real beta version.

The Texas Instruments Eproms are a bit strange indeed.
The game and its developer are japanese. The game was never intended for a US release. The origin of this card must be japan. A other eprom brand would sound more plausible but it can still be legit. If we can not verify the maker date of the eproms it will be hard to find out.
The fact is, with a BA3A board in your hands, you can basicially put anything on it if you know how to program eproms. The backstory of this card is really missing here.
BA3A boards were on yahoo auctions from time to time.
Some came with games, some were empty. It is very hard to say.

In any case, I admire Schwancks efforts but he also took a great risk here. For that price there are way to less information available and also the seller was not even covering the windows of the eproms. How careless is that?!? A real valuable beta/proto could have been damaged. Even if just a few bits get erased, the harm is done. The not covered windows could indicated that the seller knew that nothing special was on it or he has just no idea how to handle such things.
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#15
Re: Virtual Fishing Prototype ROM
Posted on: 2/16 20:35
VB Gamer
Joined 2019/8/20
30 Posts
Ah, well I can agree with you about the title of "prototype", technically these are a developer cart rather than an actual prototype. But it's the name that stuck, so in that sense, they are all refereed to as prototypes, the content certainly has a big impact, but it's still a neat and rather uncommon item anyway.

I've heard of them selling a while back on yahoo auctions, but beyond that, I've only ever seen 3 of these for sale. The Virtual League Baseball one, which has an even more ridiculous price tag but it believed to be authentic, the copy of Panic Bomber (1 of 2 known and documented copies), and this one. I know of a 4th one that sold, but I believe it was a private sale, I never actually saw it for sale publicly. Even then, Virtual League Baseball might have never actually sold due to it's price, though I haven't seen it listed in a good bit now, prior to that it was listed for years. So even without something authentic flashed on it, it's still neat as a generic BA3A cart. It still is a rather uncommon collection piece that's missing from many really nice collections that I've seen due to it's rarity.
Edited by Yamagushi on 2020/2/16 20:51
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#16
Re: Virtual Fishing Prototype ROM
Posted on: 2/16 20:56
Nintendoid!
Joined 2013/9/9
USA
117 Posts
Long Time User (6 Years) 30+ Game Ratings
Thanks everyone for your work and contribution. I’ll add these labels inside so in the future this could be prevented again.

Too bad I spent to much and the story wasn’t different. Gonna take a long time to pay off.



I have plans of what I’m going to do with it and should be done tomorrow.

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#17
Re: Virtual Fishing Prototype ROM
Posted on: 2/16 21:28
VB Gamer
Joined 2019/8/20
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Schwanck wrote:
Thanks everyone for your work and contribution. I’ll add these labels inside so in the future this could be prevented again.

Too bad I spent to much and the story wasn’t different. Gonna take a long time to pay off.



I have plans of what I’m going to do with it and should be done tomorrow.


Eh, I wouldn't bother with the stickers. For it to end up questionable again in the future, someone would have to deceive the next buyer, and if they are willing to do that, they'd just remove them.

Also, thanks to your pics, each board has tiny differences and your specific board is now distinguishable if anyone were to try and sell it as something different in the future.
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#18
Re: Virtual Fishing Prototype ROM
Posted on: 2/17 15:47
Nintendoid!
Joined 2013/9/9
USA
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Too much glare but I built a shadow box with the cart disassembled, so it will hang on the wall for display.

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#19
Re: Virtual Fishing Prototype ROM
Posted on: 2/17 22:16
VB Gamer
Joined 2019/8/20
30 Posts
Oh, please tell me you used antistatic foam??
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#20
Re: Virtual Fishing Prototype ROM
Posted on: 2/17 22:24
Nintendoid!
Joined 2013/9/9
USA
117 Posts
Long Time User (6 Years) 30+ Game Ratings
Yes of course
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