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#21
Re: Display ribbon cable alternatives
Geschrieben am: 25.02.2019 4:59
Nintendoid!
Dabei seit 21.07.2016
162 Beiträge
Long Time User (3 Years)
Current 3rd Iteration; now to find a decent fab house.

Current fab prices for OSH park are costing $25 per pair. Obviously, a real fab house will allow me to drop the price with quantity (and I'm shopping around), but I'd like to get an idea of how many people I could reasonably expect to get on board. The more I get, the lower the price can get per person. I would like to get it down to about $10-$15 per pair.

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#22
Re: Display ribbon cable alternatives
Geschrieben am: 25.02.2019 10:49
PVB Elite
Dabei seit 30.12.2009
Niederlande
545 Beiträge
Highscore Top10Highscore Top ScoreContributor10+ Game RatingsLong Time User (9 Years)
If they are $10 for a set, I will buy at least 10 sets. Are you on the PVB Discord server? Way more activity there, I am a 100% sure that if you post there, you could get enough interest for at least 30 sets or more.

Wouldn't surprise me if you get enough interest for a 100 sets though.
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#23
Re: Display ribbon cable alternatives
Geschrieben am: 25.02.2019 14:40
VUE(xpert)
Dabei seit 04.11.2008
Niederlande
395 Beiträge
ContributorLong Time User (10 Years) 20+ Game Ratings
hello,
just what the force81 says iff you can drop the price to around 10 $ for a set
I also will take atleast 10 sets

greetings
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#24
Re: Display ribbon cable alternatives
Geschrieben am: 25.02.2019 16:48
VUE(xpert)
Dabei seit 04.11.2008
Niederlande
395 Beiträge
ContributorLong Time User (10 Years) 20+ Game Ratings
i am sorry i whas tinking that this cables where almost ready for plug and play ( but after talking i hear that it need still soldering )
i need to cancel then ( i am not that good in soldering )

Zitat:

mawa wrote:
hello,
just what the force81 says iff you can drop the price to around 10 $ for a set
I also will take atleast 10 sets

greetings
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#25
Re: Display ribbon cable alternatives
Geschrieben am: 25.02.2019 20:01
Nintendoid!
Dabei seit 21.07.2016
162 Beiträge
Long Time User (3 Years)
Zitat:

mawa wrote:
i am sorry i whas tinking that this cables where almost ready for plug and play ( but after talking i hear that it need still soldering )
i need to cancel then ( i am not that good in soldering )

Zitat:

mawa wrote:
hello,
just what the force81 says iff you can drop the price to around 10 $ for a set
I also will take atleast 10 sets

greetings


...You do realize that there will never be a non soldered solution for this unless someone produces a new, compatible LED board, right? My aim is to make the tough part of VB restoration as easy and painless as feasible as possible.

Besides, my fourth iteration for this is in my head and will get underway when I get home in a few hours.
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#26
Re: Display ribbon cable alternatives
Geschrieben am: 25.02.2019 23:48
Virtual Freak
Dabei seit 29.12.2017
58 Beiträge
Long Time User (1 Year)
Zitat:

...You do realize that there will never be a non soldered solution for this unless someone produces a new, compatible LED board, right? My aim is to make the tough part of VB restoration as easy and painless as feasible as possible.

Besides, my fourth iteration for this is in my head and will get underway when I get home in a few hours.

I considered asking if it makes sense to fit the LED boards with ZIF sockets, but that didn't really make any sense; if you have to get in there and do soldering anyway, just make a permanent connection; it's going to be just as difficult, if not moreso, to retrofit a socket.

And, as nice as it would be to have readily-available replacement cables, until, as you said, someone starts producing replacement LED boards, I think the only market for these will be people who screwed up their originals during a repair job.
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#27
Re: Display ribbon cable alternatives
Geschrieben am: 26.02.2019 0:07
Nintendoid!
Dabei seit 21.07.2016
162 Beiträge
Long Time User (3 Years)
Zitat:

nmalinoski wrote:
I considered asking if it makes sense to fit the LED boards with ZIF sockets, but that didn't really make any sense; if you have to get in there and do soldering anyway, just make a permanent connection; it's going to be just as difficult, if not moreso, to retrofit a socket.

And, as nice as it would be to have readily-available replacement cables, until, as you said, someone starts producing replacement LED boards, I think the only market for these will be people who screwed up their originals during a repair job.


Not necessarily. When I added an RGB out to my VB, I noticed that the original cables were starting to crack and decay, something that I also verified with my other VB consoles. The cables are the main point of failure in this console, and I like making PCB layouts, so I figured "Why not?".
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#28
Re: Display ribbon cable alternatives
Geschrieben am: 27.02.2019 2:47
Nintendoid!
Dabei seit 21.07.2016
162 Beiträge
Long Time User (3 Years)
Alright, just finished my fourth (and ostensibly final) workup of the VirtualCable. I absolutely loathed EAGLE at first - now, I kinda love it.

Now to wait for the fab houses I contacted to get back to me for a prototype run.

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#29
Re: Display ribbon cable alternatives
Geschrieben am: 27.02.2019 4:01
VUE(xpert)
Dabei seit 15.12.2016
USA
302 Beiträge
Long Time User (2 Years)
Wow cool. RetroDan is back! Nice job on the flex cable.
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#30
Re: Display ribbon cable alternatives
Geschrieben am: 28.02.2019 17:55
Virtual Freak
Dabei seit 27.01.2019
USA
91 Beiträge
I can't do the work, but I know someone who does them as a cheap fix the current way ($10 an eye) right now. He has come across a few failed heating method fixes that wrecked the ribbons and left him with spare bits and pieces. This would be very welcome. I think in general they probably would be a wise investment as the old ribbons aren't exactly real high gauge thick stuff like old IDE PC ribbon cables by any means.
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