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#741
Re: The Noteworthy Auction Thread™
Posted on: 2012/3/3 10:03
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realwws really did buy his two Panic Bomber protos off of Yahoo Auctions awhile back, and they were about $400 each. His 3rd proto, a Jack Bros with no eprom stickers or markings was never seen on auction by me.

No offense to realwws, but the price is way too high. I understand that you paid deputy service fees to bid + shipping custom fees, but that reason alone doesn't increase the value of an item. The fact that you have 2 Panic bomber protos doesn't exactly make the demand for this one any more intriguing, and there are surely doubts about the authenticity of your Jack Bros.


Facts rundown:

#1: realwws did buy his Panic Bomber carts for about $400 each

#2: The Panic bomber carts appear to be genuine.

#3: His Jack Bros prototype doesn't have any stickers or writing on it, just flashed chips in an eprom cart

#4: A good handful of blank eprom carts were sold on Yahoo auctions during the same time era.

Facts needed by the community before realwws can make significant profit or break even after fees that he paid:

#1: Buy a VB to test out the games, and take photos of anything different from the Japanese retail release.

#2: I'd like to hear some input from some other veteran collectors confirming that they saw the mysterious Jack Bros auction, since anybody can flash blank chips for a dev cart.

Conclusion, are his carts real? The Panic bomber ones are, and I'd probably pay around the $400 each that he paid.
Is the Jack Bros real? with the current amount of doubt, I'd only be confident buying it at a price of a blank dev cart.

If I buy a car that is *valued* at $400 for a base price of $400 and then put and extra $400 into it for repairs and registration taxes it's still just a $400 car, not an $800 car.
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#742
Re: The Noteworthy Auction Thread™
Posted on: 2012/3/3 10:36
VB Gamer
Joined 2007/10/12
Netherlands
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just a quick reply,

the jack bros was from the same seller of the panic bombers.
it was the last thing he sold.
i payed 800 for it
oh btw i payed the amounts in euro's not in dollars.

i will update soon when i have more time.

in my store at the moment
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#743
Re: The Noteworthy Auction Thread™
Posted on: 2012/3/3 10:54
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Joined 2010/2/19
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Quote:

realwws wrote:
just a quick reply,

the jack bros was from the same seller of the panic bombers.
it was the last thing he sold.
i payed 800 for it
oh btw i payed the amounts in euro's not in dollars.

i will update soon when i have more time.

in my store at the moment


I don't doubt the coolness or authenticity of your Panic Bomber protos. They are real and very nice.

As for the auction price, I remember the auctions and they were definitely not 800Euros, they ended more in the $400USD price range as converted from the Japanese YEN at the time that I recall.

I'm not trying to hinder your sales as I'm sure many of us would love to own them, but that the same majority of us that are interested now are the same people that were watching these same auctions you won and didn't outbid you.

And for god's sake don't dump them before selling, that will surely lower your selling price.

One final word of advice, sell your two Panic Bomber protos as a pair. It will increase value as many people know you have two and no bidder would confidently place a super high bid knowing that you are lined up to sell another.

If you dump them to compare code, nobody will want them at all for a premium price. Better to take pictures of the differences instead of devaluing the physical carts.

Your stuff is valuable, just not as valuable as your asking price.


As it happens to be, a proto of a $50 game on a rare console that shows some but very little difference can fetch an easy $500 market value. At the same time, a proto that shows notable difference on a common console like famicom may barely fetch $100.
You having two of the same cart hurts the value a bit more, but I see no problem in the $400 price range that they originally sold for.

No offense, just my 2 cents as one of the few serious VB buyers.
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#744
Re: The Noteworthy Auction Thread™
Posted on: 2012/3/4 13:13
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Not trying to stir up trouble, just trying to get the facts straight. My memory of around $400 each was close to my old records. My records show that the two Panic Bomber auctions ended for around $300US and $550US respectively. Since these auctions were from around 1998, I'll lay out the math for the given prices from that year. On average in 1998 $300US bought 238£, and $550US bought 436£. That's $850US / 674£ for both Panic bomber auctions combined, or averaged as $425US / 337£ each.

Now, an e-mail from realwws sent in 2010 claims that 300 and 550 were the actual prices of the Panic Bomber protos, but in Euros. That still makes them 850 Euro for both averaging at 425 Euro each. But, he said that taxes were almost 30% and that he had to pay a fee of 10%. Current customs duties in the Netherlands is 5-8% and VAT is 19%, so we'll go on the high end of 27% (almost 30% as realwws accurately stated)

Okie dokey, so given that if my records were wrong (which they very well may have been) these would have been the prices using his numbers and his fees stated:

Auction #1: 300Euros + 10% deputy fees + 27% VAT/Customs = 419.10Euros total

Auction #2: 550Euros + 10% deputy fees + 27% VAT/Customs = 768.50Euros total

(I can't be certain if the deputy fees were included or not on the customs form, so I included them to keep prices at the higher range)

While 768.50Euro for the more expensive one of his auctions is close to his 800Euro claim, the average price for each of the Panic Bomber carts would come out to 593.80 Euro each.

He said the Jack bros was 800Euro, but I'm not certain if he meant before or after the Deputy/VAT fees. I never saw that auction.


So that's that. I apologize for any previous posts that were inaccurate on pricing. Since the above pricing would have been in 1998, we'll just have to wait and see how the market is now given the variations in VB demand and lackluster 2012 economy. I wish good luck to realwws on his auctions and good luck to prospective buyers.
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#745
Re: The Noteworthy Auction Thread™
Posted on: 2012/3/4 13:42
Virtual Freak
Joined 2012/3/1
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"the rom's have never been dumped before, so there is a big chance that the game is different but no guarantee."

I personally still think that an auction at this price, you should test your stuff and give a complete review of it.
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#746
Re: The Noteworthy Auction Thread™
Posted on: 2012/3/4 13:44
Virtual Freak
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Thank you for those precision Virtual J.
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#747
Re: The Noteworthy Auction Thread™
Posted on: 2012/3/4 14:32
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Quote:

Quote:

Posted on: 2008/3/21 16:20
Shiggsy wrote:
Congrats. You got a really good deal too. $300 is very very cheap.

The 2nd Panic Bomber proto also went cheap....but not as cheap...$550. Its still a very good deal.

It will be interesting to see if there are any differences between the protos. For anyone who wanted to buy one of the protos....maybe you should contact the seller and ask if he has more... ;)

Shiggsy


Hmm...
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#748
Re: The Noteworthy Auction Thread™
Posted on: 2012/3/4 21:11
VB Gamer
Joined 2012/2/2
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I didn't know that the Boy Scouts gave out patches for playing the Virtual Boy, lol!

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/330696806852?s ... _trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
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#749
Re: The Noteworthy Auction Thread™
Posted on: 2012/3/4 22:07
Virtual Freak
Joined 2012/3/1
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Hahaha every PVB member should have one :)
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#750
Re: The Noteworthy Auction Thread™
Posted on: 2012/3/7 9:32
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Joined 2011/3/10
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nintendo-Virt ... kid%3D6828715314445782409

custom hard shell cases.

not sure if anyone has posted this link, i came across it and it looked interesting. very similar to a project i've wanted to start but i have been unable to find the foam for sale.
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